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We've been publicly predicting the fall of Western Medicine for nearly five years. During that time, we've also covered the increasingly precarious financial situation, warning readers in 2005 and 2006 about the impending housing bubble crash and the implications for the entire financial system. In covering these two topics (western medicine and western finance), I've come to recognize many strong parallels between the two. This article explores the common threads of deception that characterize these two powerful institutions. #1 They're both based on fraud and deceptionBoth Western Finance and Western Medicine are fundamentally based on fraud. The fraud of Western Finance is that you can create money from nothing and everybody can get rich by selling each other fictitious financial instruments that have no connection to reality. The fraud of Western Medicine is that everybody can get healthy by taking fictitious patented chemicals (pharmaceuticals) rather than addressing fundamental issues of nutrition, exercise and exposure to consumer chemicals.Western Finance's fraud is committed by high-brow academics who contrive complicated derivative financial instruments that are then presented to the investment community as things of real value (which they are not). Western Medicine's fraud is committed by high-ego medical researchers who selectively massage clinical trial data to create fictitious "scientific" results that are then presented to the FDA as fact. The FDA then "approves" such drugs which are sold to the public as medicines that treat "disease" (which are also fictitious, by the way; being voted into existence by a panel of experts who benefit from such disease definitions). Both the financial instruments and FDA-approved medications are fraudulent to begin with, and they offer nothing of real, lasting value to anyone. They're both sold simply for momentary profits, without any regard for the health or the wealth of the People. #2 When problems arise, they both treat symptoms rather than solving the causesThe $700 billion financial bailout created in Washington is a classic example of Western Medicine's "treat the symptoms" mentality. Rather than address the root cause of the problem (the Fed's control over the money supply and the very structure of fractional-reserve banking), politicians seem satisfied to rig up a series of financial bandages that allow them to pretend the problem has been solved.In Western Medicine, this "treat the symptoms" approach is the de facto treatment philosophy taught in medical school: Ignore the real cause, don't bother educating patients about diet or exercise, and simply prescribe pharmaceuticals to mask the problem for as long as possible. In both cases, the patient inevitably gets sicker: The financial situation festers and grows like an unchecked cancer tumor, and while stop-gap measures can create the illusion of a healthy patient, these actions inevitably contribute to far greater crisis down the road, where the patient eventually crashes and dies. The financial sickness now infecting banks, lenders and insurance companies across the globe is an unchecked pandemic of infectious debt. But rather than addressing the cause of the infections, the financial industry seems satisfied to refinance the disease carriers so they can rise up, coughing and sputtering as they pass along the disease to anyone within breathing distance. #3 They both enrich powerful corporations while impoverishing the PeopleThe key agenda of both the financial and health industries is to enrich wealthy corporations at the expense of the public. In Western Finance, this is being done by privatizing the financial gains whilesocializing the financial losses. In other words, all the profits go to the wealthy elite while all the losses are passed along to taxpayers (this is the fundamental point of the $700 billion bailout, of course).In Western Medicine, virtually every regulatory policy in effect today is constructed to enrich corporations. The FDA's censorship of true health claims on nutritional supplements, the FTC's crackdown on anti-cancer herbal remedies, the DEA's raids on medical marijuana... these campaigns are all conducted solely to protect the profits of the pharmaceutical companies at the expense of public health. Think about it: Monopoly pricing on pharmaceuticals sold in the USA is enforced by the FDA and FTC. Approvals of drugs based on outright fraudulent science is openly granted by the FDA. Raids against vitamin companies, supplement companies and natural product retailers are organized and conducted by both the FTC and FDA, two regulatory bodies that engage in outright extortion, threatening natural health companies with bankruptcy and criminal charges if they don't pay outrageous fines based on fabricated accusations of things like "linking to a scientific journal from your website" (which is now a crime in the U.S. if you sell nutritional products). These are all the actions of governmental tyrants who act solely as Big Business street thugs, wiping out the competition to protect the profits of their (mob) bosses. #4 They're both based on arrogance and the worship of moneyArrogance runs high in Western Medicine, where clever men at the top of the pharmaceutical companies think they've outsmarted mother nature by brainwashing consumers into thinking the human body is born with deficiencies of patented synthetic chemicals. This same arrogance is woven directly into the fabric of Wall Street, where greed-based financial players convince themselves they're so brilliant that the mere idea of how to make money is now recorded as a bankable asset on the balance sheets (that's the Enron style of accounting, which has now infected all of Wall Street).The arrogance in both these industries is astounding. Neither Western Finance nor Western Medicine believes there is such a thing as a reality that shall ever hold them accountable. They don't believe in gold, or real food, or cause and effect. Things are things because they say they are, and nothing is subject to economic reality, scientific scrutiny or real-world common sense. These two industries have been living in the Twilight Zone for so long, they've completely lost touch with reality. In fact, they no longer have any familiarity with reality. Doctors, for example, have no knowledge of nutrition or superfoods. They are nutritionally illiterate the day they graduate from medical school. Similarly, bankers are almost universally ignorant of the basic laws of economics. Few understand how fractional-reserve banking really works, nor do they grasp the correlations between increases in the money supply and inflation. Bankers and doctors, it could be accurately stated, have almost no knowledge about the very things over which they have been granted authority. (For the record, yes I know there are many exceptions to this. Lots of well-educated bankers and doctors break out of the box of ignorance by learning, on their own, those things not taught to them in the land of academia.) #5 They both seek instant profits at the expense of future generationsWestern financial institutions are famous for their focus on the next fiscal quarter. If it doesn't create a profit in the next 90 days, it's not considered a worthwhile investment. This "instant profit" mentality inevitably leads to an abandonment of virtues like saving money or honoring future generations. Instead of leaving our children with equity, the United States of America (and its financial co-conspirators) have burdened future generations with an impossible debt burden.Pharmaceutical companies think much the same way. Rather than uplifting the health of the nation with sound prenatal nutrition policies (and infant health programs based on disease prevention), it seeks to vaccinate and medicate every living being with a never-ending parade of high-profit pharmaceuticals... from birth to death. There is no attention paid to the environmental effects of flushing all those drugs down the drain (pharmaceuticals are now found in the drinking water of over 50 American cities), nor is there any attempt to actually prevent cancer (or other diseases) in any way whatsoever. Instead, Western Medicine prefers to wait until people get sick so it can cash in on their disease. Similarly, Western Finance prefers to hide its problems, expanding its debt base until it gets too big to fail, at which point someone has to come along and bail it out. Neither industry operates with any degree of accountability. #6 Both are run by unindicted criminalsIf I break into your house and steal your wallet, I would be considered a criminal. But when Congress breaks into your finances and steals your life savings, they consider themselves to be heroes!Make no mistake: Both the Western Finance and Western Medical industries are run by unindicted criminals who steal, lie, and deceive their way to the greatest profits possible. Drug companies routinely bury studies they don't want you to see, and FDA leaders routinely stack their decision boards with "experts" who maintain direct financial ties to the companies selling the pharmaceuticals they're voting to approve. Meanwhile, top bankers are shelling out hundreds of millions of dollars in favors to Washington politicians in order to avoid any reduction in their multi-million dollar salaries, even while the financial institutions they led are about to be bailed out by taxpayer money. What all this has in common is thatthe top CEOs, politicians and regulatory decision makers are unindicted criminals who are guilty of various crimes against the People: Theft, conspiracy, racketeering and much more. If these people were held up to the same laws applied to you and me, they'd all be arrested and spend their lives in prison (or worse). #7 Both are doomed to collapseThe final parallel between Western Finance and Western Medicine? They're both doomed to collapse.That very idea was considered absolutely loony just 30 days ago. But I've stuck to this prediction for five years: Western medicine is doomed to collapse. And now, all of a sudden, more people are waking up and seeing their fictional world crumbling around them. The near-collapse of the global financial system, it seems, has rudely awakened a few people who were sleepwalking through life, intoxicated by visions of free riches, free pharmaceuticals and life in the land of zero accountability. Reality, though, is a stubborn thing. You can daydream all you want, but the laws of economics cannot be violated any more so than the laws of human physiology. When there's a poison in the system (biologically or financially speaking), something must be done to eliminate the poison and bolster the health of the patient. Sadly, Washington remains in the business of denying the problem, which makes it all the more difficult to try to solve it. Interestingly, the collapse of Western Finance is inevitably linked to the collapse of Western Medicine. How so? Because Big Pharma is almost entirely dependent on the government to protect and feed itself. Without Big Government creating an artificial monopoly market where competing natural products are censored or outlawed, Big Pharma could not compete! Nobody would buy arthritis drugs if they knew cherry extracts or potent fish oils could solve the problem more safely and affordably. No one would buy high-profit cholesterol drugs if they learned the truth about red yeast rice, aged garlic or policosanol. Big Pharma is entirely dependent on the government to prop up its business, and when the U.S. government goes operationally bankrupt (which is coming), Big Pharma may suddenly find itself competing in a free marketplace where it no longer has the tools of oppression, censorship and tyranny to bludgeon the competition into irrelevancy. When Big Government goes, Big Pharma will follow, and the collapse of Western Finance is thus a precursor to the collapse of Western Medicine. Both institutions, of course, will attempt to claw their way back to power, even as they are crumbling. They won't go without a fight, and they may be able to put in place clever tactics that delay their demise by years. But in the end, no nation has a future when its finance -- and its medicine -- are based on fraud. Think about that. It's a powerful realization. The U.S. simply cannot continue the way it's running today. With 50% of the population on pharmaceuticals, and children being drugged with Speed (ADHD drugs), and mandatory vaccines poisoning (and killing) young girls, there is no future unless something changes. With junk foods and energy drinks intoxicating our youth, and dangerous chemicals running rampant through the personal care product industry, and foods being irradiated to destroy their nutritional content, there is no future. With banks stealing money from the working taxpayers, and $10 trillion national debt knocking on our door, and the government taking ownership of more than 50% of the national economy, there is no future! The real world will be a shock to manyThe end of these systems is now in sight. They are crumbling under their own arrogance and stupidity, revealing a society based on self-righteous deception and global scandal. Everything we thought was real turns out to be fabricated: The money, the medicine, the economy, the law... it's all being revealed for what it is: A Matrix of enslavement, designed to keep the People believing they live in a free society, even as their health and wealth are stolen from them by the sinister few who wield political power.Western Finance will fall, and Western Medicine will soon end its reign of terror over the people. We will live to see the end of the FDA as we know it; the end of the AMA, the cancer industry and the dominance of the drug companies. We may lose our savings and we may even lose our nation, but we will not lose the one thing that matters most in this cold, dark universe: Our sense of connection with life, nature and each other. Because when all the fictions fall apart, and the facade of the American Empire crumbles like the twin towers on 9/11, when it's all said and done, we still have one thing we can count on: Mother Nature. Nature will still be there. The trees, the gardens, the herbs... these things are real. The water, the oceans, the honeybees... these are the things that bring us real wealth. Wealth is not a collection of digits in a computer. It isn't a promise printed on green paper money. Real wealth is a garden that feeds you, a river that hydrates you, and a system of medicine that nourishes and supports you. Real wealth is a day with sunshine, a night under the stars and a life lived with purpose. Real wealth is not fleeting, nor subject to cascading collapse. It is as real as the morning dew on a cabbage plant, or the sweet taste of fresh blueberry juice, or the buzz of ten thousand honeybees pollinating an orchard. These are the things Western society has forgotten, and in that forgetfulness, it has suffered a dangerous, multi-generational amnesia ... a disease of delusion, if you will, that is about to collide head-on with reality. The awakening will be rude. Some will embrace reality and thrive in the Next Society. Others will deny reality and suffer. As we watch all of this unfold, I invite you to join me in the real world; to eat real food, to experience real (natural) medicine and to make real, lasting contributions to the future of life on Earth. As fictional constructs fall to the ground around us, we are all being granted front-row seats to one of the most amazing transformations in the history of life on Earth: We are about to watch one civilization end, and another civilization emerge from the ruin. We are, indeed, watching history unfold before our eyes. And you know what? We are all fortunate enough to participate in it! Don't miss this. Stay confident. Help those you can, and prepare yourself for the transition. The next few years are going to be the most interesting we'll see in our lifetimes. 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44 Responses for "Milk consumption tied to Parkinson’s disease"
It is incorrect to suggest that vitamin D is the component of milk that gave rise to Parkinson’s disease. Uric acid is protective against PD. Milk protein reduces serum uric acid. That is the link.
Uric acid in Parkinson’s disease. Schlesinger I, Schlesinger N. Mov Disord. 2008 Sep 15;23(12):1653-7.
Diet, urate, and Parkinson’s disease risk in men. Gao X, Chen H, Choi HK, Curhan G, Schwarzschild MA, Ascherio A. Am J Epidemiol. 2008 Apr 1;167(7):831-8.
Hi Dr. Grant,
As someone who advocates high levels of vitamin D supplementation I understand your interest in my article.
Thank you for your input on the subject, but after reading the first study you posted on uric acid and PD I am very confused. You state that increased uric acid production due to milk consumption would accelerate the development of Parkinson’s.
However the study you’ve posted states the opposite – that high levels of uric acid are actually protective against PD. The researchers contend that PD may result in part from oxidative stress, and that because it is an antioxidant, uric acid may reduce such stress and subsequently PD risk.
Right in the abstract the researchers state, “High levels of SU [serum urate, the salt derived from uric acid] may have a neuroprotective effect. High SU levels reduced the risk of developing PD and correlated with slower PD progression.”
The authors go on to reference the Honolulu Heart study directly, saying that of the men in the study, “Individuals who at baseline had SU levels above the median value had a 40% reductionin in PD risk.”
These data directly conflicts with your contention that milk protein, which according to you reduces uric acid, would exacerbate PD.
The authors of the Neurology study on which I originally wrote this piece presented a number of possible reasons why milk may exacerbate PD, but did not mention milk protein’s effect on uric acid. The study you mentioned offers a compelling reason for that omission.
Best,
Amy
Hi,
Let me try again.
Milk consumption is risk factor for Parkinson’s disease as you correctly noted; see, also, Chen et al. [2007].
Uric acid reduces the risk of Parkinson’s disease, as you also noted. See, also, Kutzing and Firestein [2008]. The study I mentioned [Schlesinger and Schlesinger, 2008] had this sentence: “Milk and meat consumption as well as exercise modify the risk of developing PD possibly through their influence on SU levels.” You may have inferred that milk increased serum uric acid, but it is different from meat, it reduces serum uric acid [Schlesinger, 2005].
Peroxynitrite is a risk factor for Parkinson’s disease [Pacher et al., 2007; Kutzing and Firestein, 2008].
Uric acid reduces concentrations of peroxynitrite [Kutzing and Firestein, 2008].
Those with Parkinson’s disease were found to have lower levels of serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D [Evatt et al., 2007].
Q.E.D.
References
Consumption of dairy products and risk of Parkinson’s disease. Chen H, O’Reilly E, McCullough ML, Rodriguez C, Schwarzschild MA, Calle EE, Thun MJ, Ascherio A. Am J Epidemiol. 2007 May 1;165(9):998-1006.
Prevalence of vitamin d insufficiency in patients with Parkinson disease and Alzheimer disease. Evatt ML, Delong MR, Khazai N, Rosen A, Triche S, Tangpricha V. Arch Neurol. 2008 Oct;65(10):1348-52.
Altered uric acid levels and disease states. Kutzing MK, Firestein BL. J Pharmacol Exp Ther. 2008 Jan;324(1):1-7.
Pacher P, Beckman JS, and Liaudet L (2007) Nitric oxide and peroxynitrite in health and disease. Physiol Rev 87: 315–424.
Dietary factors and hyperuricaemia. Schlesinger N. Curr Pharm Des. 2005;11(32):4133-8.
Uric acid in Parkinson’s disease. Schlesinger I, Schlesinger N. Mov Disord. 2008 Sep 15;23(12):1653-7.
H Dr. Grant,
Sorry, I misinterpreted your interpretation.
Well then, maybe milk could also cause Parkinson’s by reducing serum uric acid.
However I still believe the vitamin D hypothesis is valid. Hopefully future research will make the issue more clear.
In the Evatt study you cite in which patients with Parkinson’s disease were found to have lower levels of 25-D, have you considered that the low 25-D in such patients could be the result rather than the cause of the disease process?
Take a look at the following paper:
http://autoimmunityresearch.org/transcripts/AR-Albert-VitD.pdf
Best,
Amy
Hello Amy,
I would like to ask what is the explanation of the MP science about the maps at sunarc.org showing so clearly much higher cancer and MS rates in northern states than in southern states. Is there any explanation other than lack of Vit. D from the Sun? Thank you.
Hi Ron,
My comment here addresses how observational studies are flawed.
If you are concerned about cancer, you should know that patients on the Marshall Protocol avoid consumption of vitamin D, and, when necessary, exposure to light. The Marshall Protocol cohort has 1,000+ patients, many of whom have been doing the MP for years. This is an extremely high risk population – multiple co-morbidities are the rule, rather than the exception.
Yet, the number of MP patients who have had metastasizing cancer totals zero.
Note that this data is anecdotal. In the next few years, I trust that we’ll be able to make this claim in the context of a peer-reviewed paper. Stay tuned.
Best,
Paul
Interesting debate on the comments.
This begs the question: Vitamin C has been shown to lower Serum Uric Acid levels – does this mean the higher doses of Vitamin C might actually increase one’s risk of getting Parkinson’s?
Hi Zen,
There is no evidence that antioxidants such as vitamin C (or even substances which conserve antioxidants) reduce the incidence of disease. See the New Scientist article on the subject. The article is three years old, but the best evidence remains the same.
The last 20 years has seen one antioxidant after the next flame out when controlled studies have scrutinized their efficacy…. No doubt, the antioxidants du jour will prove equally ineffective. I’m looking at you, Acai berries!
Best,
Paul
Thanks for your input Paul…I do agree that the push for people to consume antioxidants is not necessarily backed up in the scientific literature. That’s another reason why I personally don’t believe Parkinson’s is caused by oxidative stress and could be ameliorated with an antioxidant. I believe that evidence points towards chronic bacteria as the cause for PD.
Zen, that still doesn’t answer your question as to whether taking more vitamin C would increase Parkinson’s risk. I sure haven’t seen any studies that associate vitamin C with higher PD risk. So good question!
Since I’m the one who thinks the vitamin D in milk is to blame for increased PD incidence I guess this question goes to Dr. Grant…….
Best,
Amy
Dear Amy
You wrote:
In the Evatt study you cite in which patients with Parkinson’s disease were found to have lower levels of 25-D, have you considered that the low 25-D in such patients could be the cause rather than the result of the disease process?
didnt you mean “could be the result rather than the cause” ?….
Martin
Hi Martin,
Yes..you are absolutely right.
Let me try that again – the low levels of vitamin D in the PD patients could be the RESULT rather than the CAUSE of the disease process.
OK! Geez….my mind has really been elsewhere while I’ve been writing comments in this thread. Probably because my sister is getting married and I’m trying to run her wedding website at the same time but still no excuse.
Thanks so much for setting me straight!
Amy
I suppose that the study linking low 25-D to PD never bothered to analyze for the active metabolite, 1,25-D. Since 25-D is the precursor for 1,25-D, low 25-D levels could indicate high levels of the active form as it is converted.
Phil
Hi Phil,
I think you’re right. I certainly don’t see any data on the subjects’ 1,25-D levels in the paper. Frustrating indeed!
Amy
I believe in natural theory of cause and effect. If the cause is an error of fortifying natural milk with Vit.D3, so is the effect. No natural substance in its natural form becomes a cause for an imbalance. Provided natural substances are not used accordingly can be the cause for an imbalance, as too much of anything or inadequate both together with inappropriate is the cause of every imbalance.
Hi Dr. Joshi,
No natural substance in its natural form becomes a cause for an imbalance.
What about hemlock or any number of other “natural” substances that do a person no good?
With all due respect, yours is a philosophical argument. Instincts are useful, but absent real evidence, they can only take a scientist so far.
Best,
Paul
Here is a book written by an M.D. supporting the Parkinson’s-bacteria connection. http://tinyurl.com/cjebyu
Kate
Very interesting Kate. Thanks for sharing!
Best,
Amy
Very interesting article, and website in general.
I do wonder why there is no mention of a prevention regimen on your website (that I can find so far). Researching Lyme Disease the herbs samento and cumanda have been very effective against a broad range of pathogens. Elecampane root is 100% effective against MRSA. It seems to me avoiding vitamin D supplementation and anti-microbial herbal teas would both be a good prevention idea!
Hi, Paul Albert,
thank you for your response. Interestingly any substance which come in wrong contact/consumption would give adversity or illness, even an unseen abuse from mind is sufficient to cause damage psycho-somatically. coming to the hemlock, natural substances with above theory of moderation/tolerance can enhance/boost immune responses. for example honey bee stings to use of processed poisonous herbs/minerals in Ayurveda. processing techniques nullify toxicity and enhance tolerance other wise well tolerant sweet substances or cheese in excess may cause food poisoning.
Hi Joseph,
Thanks for your insight but I don’t agree that any of the techniques you suggest would stop L-form bacteria or other chronic bacteria from spreading. We actually recommend that herbal tea be drunk in only low levels because it has high levels of chlorogenic acid – a chemical that dysregulates the VDR nuclear receptor and subsequently slows the innate immune response. Patients on the MP are prohibited from using herbs or others supplements like the ones you mention.
The only way an herb would help protect against L-from bacteria is if it caused a rise in symptoms (an immunoopathological response) that we know signifies bacterial death. If the herb causes a feeling of wellness or does not increase inflammation, it most likely has immunosuppresive properties that actually allow L-form bacteria to spread more easily in the long run.
The best way to prevent the spread of L-form and other bacteria that cause chronic disease is to do the MP. Even a healthy person can benefit from Benicar activating their immune system. Then they can use antibiotics when necessary to enhance the effects of the Benicar in allowing them to target any bacteria they may have accumulated thus far. In fact, we believe that in the future, the MP will become largely a preventative treatment. At the first sign of a symptom, or if a person lives with someone who is ill, they will likely be put on the MP. Some healthy people may choose to do the treatment just to ensure that they don’t accumulate any bacteria and remain healthy. In fact, that’s what my sister is currently doing. Although she doesn’t have any symptoms she is taking Benicar and minocycline to kill any bacteria she may have picked up from me or any bacteria that she picks up from food or other sources. She is doing very well and manifests with such a low level of immunopathology that it doesn’t affect her daily life at all. The reason healthy people can use the MP as a preventative treatment is because the medicines have such excellent safety profiles.
So I encourage people to use the MP as a preventative already and I also encourage people who are symptomatic to start the MP at the earliest date – when their bacterial loads are at the lowest point. The treatment will be much easier and quicker under such circumstances.
Best,
Amy
Hi Joseph,
One more thing. MRSA is a growing health concern and certainly on the rise, so if Elecampane root treats it 100% effectively why would this be the case? Do you have any peer-reviewed studies that confirm the statistic that Elecampne root eliminates MRSA so effectively?
Thanks,
Amy
I was surprised to find out a few months ago that Vitamin-D in the body is not just one chemical, but a series of metabolites. What is usually called Vitamin-D (i.e. 25-D) is not even the most active form.
This is relatively new knowledge. Historically it’s been (25-D) alone that’s been measured in most research.
I think most people will be surprised, as I was, to learn about the several different forms of Vitamin-D. It will also be surprising to most people to learn that it’s the (1,25-D) form that activates the immune system, and that the (25-D) form tends to switch it off.
In some chronic diseases, concentrations of the more active form (1,25-D) is elevated, even though the concentration of the well-known form (25-D) may be depressed. In such cases, how can we continue to think that there is a Vitamin-D “deficiency”? There is an abundance of (1,25-D) compared to normal levels in healthy people.
In view of the fact that concentrations of (25-D) and (1,25-D) are not always at a constant ratio, coupled with the fact of (1,25-D)’s potency, it seems researchers ought to be testing for both metabolites, i.e. (25-D) and (1,25-D), not just one, if they want to truly understand what’s really going on.
In the case of this Parkinson’s study, it is too bad that we don’t have the (1,25-D) data. Amy brings up a very needed point. There is strong evidence from the MP cohort, in-silico VDR studies, and elsewhere, to link vitamin-D supplementation as a major suspect in the progression of Parkinson’s disease. If we had (1,25-D) data on those patients, in addition to the (25-D) data, we might very well find that there is no deficiency of active Vitamin-D (1,25-D) at all.
I hope researchers will take note!
Furthermore, if (25-D) tends to switch off the immune system, then studies that show low levels of (25-D) in the presence of chronic disease should be interpreted anew. Instead of that being an argument “for” supplementation of Vitamin-D, it becomes an argument “against”. That is, more (25-D) would tend to compromise the patient’s immune system even more.
In the past, the world has held the idea that “the” sunshine vitamin, (25-D), increased immune response, and therefore, if (25-D) was low when patients were ill, that implied supplementation was needed. However, that argument gets turned around by in-silico studies that show (25-D) deactivates the Vitamin-D nuclear receptor.
I hope researchers will take note!
Thank you Amy for posting this article on Parkinson’s and milk, — or we may say, on positive steps to make Parkinson’s research better.
Thank you Dallas,
I agree with your reasoning. I do think that it is very, very important that the medical community begins testing both 25-D and 1,25-D in patients and that they understand the differences between the two secosteroids.
Best,
Amy
I’ve read that MS and Parkinson’s are more common in northern latitudes and symptoms are worse in winter indicating a protective role for vitamin D. Is that bogus info?
I drink unfortified milk, but I do try to get sunlight for natural D and take cod liver oil in winter… is this harmful according to MP?
Why would humans have evolved to make D from sunlight if this could be damaging? Wouldn’t degenerative disease suppossedly caused by D have been common among our early ancesters (who spent more time outside) and less so today as we spend more time inside and use sunscreen?
Or are natural sources of D OK?
Oh, brother. On a trivial level, this reminds me of how butter (in moderation) is bad for you … no, wait, good for you … no, wait, bad … no, wait, good. Other random memes are the startling and unexpected discovery of jumping genes, and of how bacteria after all are the root cause of ulcers. Another meme is the six blind men and the elephant.
One wonders realistically what level of development of real-time biological monitoring of humans and analysis of actual drug components (including food additions such as different forms of vitamin D) will be required to properly evaluate the effect of environmental influences (foodstuffs, sunlight, drugs, etc.) on disease conditions. All I see now is high-level guesswork, here today and gone tomorrow, with a few exceptions such as the undeniable effect of antibiotics on disease-causing bacteria, and some surgeries.
As for the person who commented on natural substances, chemicals is chemicals (sic). Cheese fat is a chemical. Your tinkletoes are made of chemicals. Aspirin is a chemical, and so is the protein in a banana. It’s all chemicals. What matters is the exact reaction by living organisms to any chemical or combination of chemicals, such as a hamburger or a herb or a synthetic substance meant for treatment of disease.
Hi Sandra,
I am so glad you asked about latitude studies. Have a look at the relevant Knowledge Base article:
http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:pathogenesis:vitamind:latitude
One thing I don’t point out in that article is that people in Northern latitudes are more likely to take immunosuppressive drugs. Those in tropical countries tend to be poorer and cannot afford interferon, penicillins, TNF-alpha drugs, etc.
According to the Marshall Pathogenesis, supplementing with vitamin D (synthetic, natural, D2, D3, etc.) is harmful – at least over the long-term. Moderate sun exposure is fine obviously.
Sunscreen doesn’t have a huge effect on vitamin D production. Look at the studies referenced here:
http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:lifestyle:light:skin_protection#effect_of_sunscreen_on_vitamin_d_production
There is currently no evidence that the vast majority of chronic diseases haven’t been around for at least millenia. Manifestations of both arteriosclerosis and cardiac disease can be observed in mummies of ancient Egypt. Ötzi the Neolithic Iceman who lived around 3300 BC was found to have arthritis. Et cetera.
Whether our ancestors spent more time outside is debatable. I asked a current professor of history from Princeton how much time Neolithic man spent outside in the sun. He said there was not enough evidence either way.
Hope this helps.
Best,
Paul
Hi Crafty:
Indeed, the dueling recommendations can get a little old.
The problem with making our case that vitamin D is harmful is that the negative effects of taking a secosteroid takes several years, sometimes even decades, to be realized. For the record, we agree that some/many people who take supplemental vitamin D feel better in the near term. It’s that pesky long-term which is cause for concern.
I wish this weren’t so. That way our discussion would be much more straightforward.
Best,
Paul
Parkinson’s disease is related to low levels of the neurotransmitter dopamine in the body. Vitamin D promotes the synthesis of dopamine (along with epinephrine and norepinephrine). I find it difficult to understand why you think that drinking milk fortified with vitamin D would cause a disease that occurs due to insufficient dopamine levels.
To be more specific, it seems unlikely that a vitamin/hormone that increases dopamine levels would be implicated in a disease caused by low dopamine levels. The more likely explanation, as pointed out by the doctor who posted the first response to this article, is that some other factor is involved. It could be possible, for example, that too much dairy calcium interferes with the body’s normal ability to regulate and use vitamin D.
Vitamin D promotes the synthesis of dopamine (along with epinephrine and norepinephrine).
I’m sure it could for short periods of time, but how is it doing that? More importantly, how is it affecting the disease over long periods of time such as the length of this study?
You know, anabolic steroids promotes the synthesis of muscle. If short-term benefit were all that was important, we should be giving underweight elderly regular doses of Dianabol.
Clearly vitamin D and anabolic steroids are vastly different, but there’s a point here, namely that you give a person a powerful substance and it has effects beyond what is immediately apparent.
In my opinion, our essential difference is over whether bacteria cause Parkinson’s. The NIH says 9 of every 10 cells in the human body are bacterial. Only 1% of these have been characterized. I think it’s fair to say these bacteria cause Parkinson’s disease. If I could show you that bacteria cause disease and that interfering with bacterial die-off reduces symptoms of symptoms of disease, then I think I could make a pretty good case that vitamin D exacerbates Parkinson’s.
I take issue with even a guess that calcium causes Parkinson’s. Why not vitamin D? After all, we already know that vitamin D intake is correlated with brain lesions (and that lesions are themselves associated with Parkinson’s). Note that with regard to the vitamin D-lesion study, only vitamin D intake, and not calcium consumption, was shown to be significantly positively associated with brain lesion volume.
Best,
Paul
Vitamin D promotes neurotransmitter synthesis because that is one of its many roles in a normally-functioning body – along with regulating calcium. A healthy 25-hydroxyvitamin D level is correlated with proper neurological and psychological functioning. In other diseases (like Parkinson’s) where a dopamine dysregulation is implicated – schizophrenia, for instance – there are studies that show elevated serum calcium levels, depressed magnesium levels, and depressed vitamin D levels.
We have been in the sun for tens of thousands of years, and virtually all life on this planet is absolutely dependent on sunlight for its continued existence. It is well known, anecdotally and scientifically, that Vitamin D boosts the immune system… a treatment protocol that suppresses a naturally-sourced, endogenous immunoprotective hormone is laughable.
If you people want to stick your head in the sand (literally) and ignore that sunlight is good for people, then that’s your choice. When you realize, after a few decades of fruitless work supported only by ‘in silico’ models, that your life could have been spent doing other things, don’t blame me…
Daniel,
Vitamin D can’t do all its usual good things when the vitamin D system is dysregulated due to disease. This is explained in other articles.
There are diseases like Sarcoidosis where (1,25,D) levels are “not” lock-step linked to (25,D). It is (1,25-D) that is the “active” form which activates the VDR. Many researchers are still following the assumption that the two are always proportionally related, and therefore measuring (25,D) is all that matters. However, there are known exceptions, so why should we keep using a failed assumption?
The MP has in-silico findings which point this out. Other people use in-silico, too. But the MP has an on-going in-vivo study going, too, where people are getting well, not just palliated.
Please don’t be too quick to side-step understanding the new in-silico findings. Read on.
Hi Daniel,
I understand that you are butting heads with new research when you hear about our current research on vitamin D but please at least try to be somewhat open-minded.
We could get into a long argument about why 25-D supplementation would or would not be good for a Parkinson’s patient but our answer to that question (which is no!) can be found in our published papers. Those of us at ARF have made a concerted effort to publish our findings on vitamin D so that we don’t have to repeat it over and over again to naysayers like yourself. I can tell you have not read any of our publications and I urge you to do so.
If you continue to remain steadfast with your views on vitamin D then perhaps you would like to engage directly with Dr. Marshall, or perhaps attend one of our many talks on vitamin D at conferences around the world where we are presenting our findings and join in the debate there.
The primary focus of this site is to help patients who want to use the Marshall Protocol as a means to recover from their diseases. I spend my time helping such people who are open-minded to our research.
For the record, we do not advocate sun avoidance. Light sensitivity is common in our patients but the goal of every MP patient is to once again return to a place where they can tolerate healthy amounts of sun. Read more here:
http://bacteriality.com/2008/02/23/misconceptions/#8
Please let me bury my head in the sand if you truly think that’s what I’m doing. Meanwhile, ARF chaired the entire session on vitamin D at the 2008 International Congress on Autoimmunity in Portugal, and we are starting a large clinical trial in China with researchers from around the world who are very receptive to our work. At the moment I need to focus on our collaborations with them.
Thanks,
Amy
I live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada and was diagnosed with stage 3 Sarcoidosis of the lungs in 2008. I am presently in my 3rd month taking Prednisone (30 mg/day) — I am SO confused trying to make sense of what to do and what not to do to effectively improve/cure my condition. I did approach my lung specialist with the MP, and he hadn’t heard of it before but did some research on it. He had a few issues with it due to the fact that no clinical trials were available and thought that the doses of Benicar were too high for me, so he wasn’t comfortable putting me on the program. I have not been able to find much information on why not to take Vitamin D, etc., so am left in limbo. There’s not much info out there on Sarcoidosis, let alone what to do about it…
Hi Daphne,
Sorry to hear your have sarcoidosis. I understand how confusing it must be to get a diagnosis of sarcoidosis and hear conflicting views on how to best treat it.
I strongly discourage you from taking Prednisone to treat your disease. The following article discusses the negative effects of Prednisone and will give you a more specific idea of why you might not want to take it.
http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:othertreatments:corticosteroids
If you opt not to go the Prednisone route, I believe the MP is the choice that makes the most sense. There’s strong evidence for bacteria in sarcoidosis and our other patients using the MP to target these bacteria are doing quite well.
I’m sorry we can’t give your doctor the Phase III data he wants, but we are beginning a clinical trial at West China Hospital, the largest clinical hospital in the world and a center for the Cochrane Collaboration.
http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:arf:072109
In order to better understand our views on vitamin D, take a look at this article.
http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:pathogenesis:vitamind
Here’s an article on Benicar safety:
http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:protocol:olmesartan:safety
You may want to show your doctor our organization’s peer-reviewed papers and presentations:
http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:publications
Ultimately, the manner in which you treat your sarcoidosis is up to you. If you read enough about the Marshall Protocol and feel it is the best treatment option for your condition and your doctor does not believe it is the right treatment option, you should consider finding another doctor.
Here is an article that talks about how to find a doctor who might be supportive.
http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:starting:physician:finding
Good luck!
Best,
Amy
Thank you Amy and Paul for the great article and for your efforts to help raise concern about D.
Claire
P.S. I certainly hope Daniel takes you up on your suggestion that he read the MP related research, as this comment alone “there are studies that show elevated serum calcium levels, depressed magnesium levels, and depressed vitamin D levels” let me know that he had not. Had he, he may have put forward a more powerful argument–that is, if one exists.
In cases of sarcoidosis, why not consider lab work for:
All vitamin and mineral levels?
Infectious microbes?
Heavy metals, biotoxins, and exotoxins?
Food intolerances?
Instead of prednisone (or ancillary to) why not consider fish oil, ginger, curcumin, boswellia, rosmarinic acid, and a list of other natural
anti-inflammatory agents?
Amy, in response to your previous comments:
From personally reading hundreds of reports on using samento and cumanda to treat Lyme, babesia, and other microbes, a most common comment is that it does indeed exacerbate symptoms purportedly via the Herxheimer reaction of pathogen die off. The elecampane research mentioned concerning MRSA has been conducted by Susan O’Shea, a research student at Cork Institute of Technology (CIT), Ireland.
The Cork Institute of Technology evolved from the Royal Cork Institution in 1807 , and the Crawford Municipal Technical Institute which was founded in 1912. It seems like a legitimate institution. Furthermore, elcampane has been demonstrated effective against mycobacteria by Cantrell CL, Abate L, Fronczek FR, Franzblau SG, Quijano L, Fischer NH in “Antimycobacterial eudesmanolides from Inula helenium and Rudbeckia subtomentosa,” Planta Medica, 1999 May;65(4):351-5, reporting that “elcampane root extracts exhibited significant activity against Mycobacterium tuberculosis.” A National Library of Medicine “Pubmed” search on antimycobacterial plants returns over one hundred research journal articles. Antimycobacterial phytochemical agents have a considerable research literature.
There are many effective natural cures. In the USA physicians face malpractice lawsuits if their protocol is not FDA approved. An FDA approval , and the necessary machinations to bring a new drug to market, is currently estimated to cost one Billion dollars. Who is going to finance studies for all the natural cures that are inexpensive and non-patentable, and therefore, not profitable? USA medical practice is based on profit, not on health.
Hi Joseph,
Wow, that’s a lot of supplements! Maybe some of the supplements lead to a bacterial die-off reaction, but then again something like fish oil has definitely been shown to slow immune activity:
http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:othertreatments:efas
I’m sure you would disagree, but, compared to Benicar and the MP antibiotics, we know relatively little about how these supplements affect the immune system.
Besides, our problem is not in generating an immune response. Almost every sick patient on the MP has been able to generate a pronounced a die-off reaction.
So, we’re right now we’re not interested in supplements. We’re interested in using medications that have clearly defined actions at the molecular level.
As for the tests you mention, those tend to be rather expensive and most patients can’t afford them.
Best,
Paul
Hi Paul, My budget health insurance covers all those tests, since they are not exotic but fundamental tests. Due to out of control medical costs, out of pocket for anything is getting more difficult; but that is another discussion topic. The premise for testing for essential vitamins, minerals, and fatty acids, is the same for testing for vitamin D in many ways. They are called vitamins and essential because they are the fundamental parameters of a healthy metabolism. I find it incredulous that few doctors care about the overall health of patients; naturopaths and orthomolecular medical doctors are notable exceptions.
My goal is inexpensive practical cures; however, most diseases are much less expensive to prevent. Eating the right foods, and perhaps a few inexpensive supplements, can restore metabolism to a healthy homeostasis, once illuminated by some diagnostic testing.
For example, it is much better to take a few tablespoons of coconut oil, eat tomatoes, consume whole dark grapes (skin and seeds), and use knotweed shoots in salad to PREVENT candida (coconut fatty acids, lycopene and resveratrol kill candida), than to try to remove candida once it has penetrated the intestinal epithelium and taken up residence in blood and organs.
I am not arguing against the MP at all.
First, I am just suggesting for those not already suffering from mycobacterial over growth, there are dietary, herbal, and supplements that have been scientifically researched to have antimycobacterial properties, which can be logically expected to provide an inhospitable internal environment for mycobacteria to get a foothold.
Secondly, does MP have a 100% cure rate? Perhaps for those not cured by MP alone, an ancillary enhancement using a combination of MP and aforementioned nutraceuticals would improve the cure rate for those intractable outliers.
For example, at a meeting of the American College of Chest Physicians on October 29, 2008 by Gilda Sapphire Erguiza, M.D. of the Philippine Children’s Medical Center and Daniel Rauch, M.D. of the New York University Langone Medical Center, their results of a study in treating mycobacterium tuberculosis, a combination of coconut oil and antibiotics was found to be more effective than antibiotics alone.
Your point about immune suppressing effects of fish oil is significant. In various protocols for a variety of diseases, at particular stages of disease progression, the use of immune system enhancement can be contraindicated. To intuitively suggest that immune enhancement is invariably the correct course, while intuitively plausible, is not scientifically correct. While fish oil is established to contribute to the prevention of heart disease, cancer, and depression; depending on the protocol to treat a disease chosen, fish oil may, or may not be appropriate as an ancillary treatment.
Take care, Joe
Of further interest, the herb Artemisia, a traditional remedy for infection, is from my readings, probably the most common herb used by the Lyme community to treat comorbid mycoplasma infection. It has scientifically proven to be effective against several mycoplasma species.
Also Dr. Virginia Livingston, working here in Newark at Saint Michael’s Hospital in the 1950s eventually developed an autogenous vaccine for a cell wall deficient bacteria.
Her work has been updated by Dr. Alan Cantwell, who implicated cell wall deficient mycoplasma species in scleroderma, sarcoidosis, sarcoma, and Hodgkin’s.
The widespread plant phenol hydroxytyrosol has demonstrated antimycoplasmal activity, and has been suggested as an ancillary treatment for those with antibiotic resistant mycoplasmas.
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On Antioxidants and incidence of disease (Paul Albert Aug 6 09): the New Scientist article you mention is worth reading by anyone interested in ia well written piece quoting people who know nothing about health and antioxidants: look at there credentials; nothing is hidden. No medical doctor is quoted ; no-one with opposite views with credentials in healthcare is interviewed. Furthermore, if bias needed to be proven, some benefits of antioxidants are acknowledged in one paragraph but the implications seem to be ignored by the author..
Let me give 1 ex of inaccuracy in this article:
A big mistake is made by one of the scientist quoted who does not understand the difference between antioxidant capacity and reducing capacity (measured by Redox potential).
This is like comparing calcium carbonate (with its known”anti-acid capacity” = buffering capacity) and the lack of high Ph in water + CaCO3 (Ph akin to redox potential).
Perhaps it’s not the best ex since CaCO3 is not soluble in water but i can’t think of abetter one now.
Antioxidants act like a buffer against free radicals (capturing them in fact).They do not affect the redox potential in SO whose redox potential is within normal values allowing life.
The chemist who gave me the same link said this article proved the free radical theory of aging and disease was invalid… He is wrong and I hope my comments helped him to understand why )he understands chemistry).
So much for this article which ignores thousands of publications linking – if not PROVING – the benefits of diets rich in antioxidants and supplementation above and beyond diet.
I am not blaming you for quoting this paper: look at it again in detail; you’ll see what I said is true and we can quote it as a biased, unscientific look at the subject of antioxidants.
RE: Vit C and UA; I assume the reduction of uric acid levels by Vit C (which I haven’t verified) is largely compensated by the antioxidant effect of Vit C. In Ph terms I’d assume Vit C is a better/stronger buffer than uric acid or that the loss of buffer from lower UA is largely compensated by increased buffer from Vit C.
I hope this doesn’t cause further confusion.
Acai is widely overrated (not the highest ORAC value!) and is expensive. I’d stick to Kiwi and berries!
I decided not to follow MP but the above is unrelated.
here is a quote from the article (New Scientist):
“Vitamin E is not an antioxidant. In fact it must be protected against oxidation,” says Angelo Azzi, a biochemist at Tufts University in Boston, Massachusetts.”
what kind of a biochemist is he?
Vit E is antioxidant BECAUSE it neutralizes (captures, as some put it) free radicals; in that process it becomes oxidized, the free radical being reduced. To remain active indeed it has to be protected against oxidation (from O2 for ex).
Vit E, acting as an antioxidant, will prevent oil from becoming rancid (try it if You don’t believe me w 2 bottles of say olive oil, 1 w added vit E and the other without exposed to natural heat and sunlight).
The large reduction of incidence of cardiovascular disease from Vit E, in some studies, speaks for itself. I don’t know why other studies failed to show similar results. Could it be a different amount of E? Or more likely the form of synthetic Vit E given – instead of MIXED TOCOPHEROLS (what I take)?
YOU have to judge for yourself and perhaps look at Life Extension magazine with many articles on Vit E and other antioxidants.
Yes, LE sells Vit and supplements (Expensive on top of that) and can be seen as having a conflict of interest BUT you MUST look at their Medical advisory board before you jump to conclusions:
Md’s, professors of medicine etc (not a journalist writing in the New Scientist probably on behalf of pharma interests!).
End of debate for me.
Crispy,
At the risk of sounding rude and in an effort to maintain clarity, I don’t support your conclusions.
Best,
Amy